Simon

To me, “GvR repeats the confusion between X and Y” sounds like “GvR is wrong”, and that’s what I disagree with. I am not wrong in making this distinction.

Still, I do think that two different language categories are generally “confused” while there are enough differences to maintain them apart. Not just in their programming environments, but also in the way they work.

I don’t think I am “confused” in this matter either, although I’m clearly disagreeing with “how these terms are usually understood”.

Once again, I’m sorry you took my dissenting opinion as a personal attack.

The distinction you are trying to make is more between languages with a big programming environment built in (Smalltalk, many Lisp systems) vs. (more traditional) languages with external programming environments (Java, some Lisps, most other languages).

I think you owe me an apology for claiming that I am “repeating a confusion.” I know perfectly well what I am talking about, and most people would agree with my terminology. You are the one who is “confused”.

The names I’ve used are possibly not the best, but I do think there’s a real difference on how Lisp and Smalltalk worked when compared to languages like Python or Perl.

As to “Worse is Better”: in Junio’s addendum to FLOSS Weekly about git, he wrote that multiple branches in single repository was not something that was in initial git design. Yet git design was flexible enough to allow it. I think that git support for multiple branches in single repository is superior to other version control tools: Bazaar-NG and Mercurial.

NPAPI Plugins on Mac work a little different, and I think (but I’m not sure) Safari plugins use a completely different API.

Any ideas why? I’d be glad to help with the implementation to get NPAPI plugin support stable.

Also, does the code support the npruntime extensions?